Nov 1, 2019
My guest today is Tiago Forte, who runs an online course
called Building a Second Brain.
This episode is different than most of my podcasts. It’s less
of an interview and more of a conversation.
Tiago and I have collaborated closely for the past year. In
February, we worked together to film and produce my online writing
course called Write of Passage.
And throughout the year, we’ve teamed up to improve every aspect of
the student experience.
We recorded this episode from Arizona where we were hosting
our Creative Process Workshop, which offers a radical new approach
to writing in the Information Age, just like Write of
In this conversation, we reflect on the time we’ve spent
working together, explore the key trends in online education, and
talk about what we’ve learned by teaching more than 1,000 students
Please enjoy my conversation with Tiago Forte.
2:15 – the shifting bottleneck of online education
10:53 – discovering how much our own identities/how we
perceive ourselves impact our actions
13:30 – changing identity on scale through online
25:04 – the audio revolution and returning to Marshall
35:23 – how feedback loops exponentially increases your
41:50 – it’s easier than ever to create, so what has gotten
48:20 – the evolution of note taking
54:38 – C.R.I.B.S.
58:55 – to create takes courage OR the internet just magnifies
1:04:49 – if you can easily describe what you are doing it’s
probably not ambitious enough
1:13:05 – everything is “figureoutable”
1:19:20 – reaching quality through quantity
1:28:19 – Michigan and Ford factory visit
1:35:41 – the power of a weakness
1:41:40 – you cannot change your own identity without
1:44:52 – importance of constraints
1:50:40 – what’s the experience of playing with constraints
and an example of an outcome?
1:56:32 – writing as thinking and re-writing as
2:00:52 – “freedom to make a bad painting”
2:04:32 – the paradox of specificity: the more specific what
you are known for is, the more opportunities you’ll attract